If Fuji adds video centric menu features and options, then the only real missing aspects would be 4K/60 and a fully articulated LCD. After two days of shooting GH5s in Dubai, I've stumbled across two problems. GH5S Summary. When Panasonic came to see us they said the "Native" ISOs were 400 and 2500 but when we asked what they meant by this, they said they were "settings that performed well and gave some flexibility to move up and down". It's not impossible. However, ISO 3200 is slightly better. There is technical information that I've not seen even on dedicated video sites, and it was all explained in a clear, concise manner. Broadcast flexibility for post-production. The second is that the Photo Style parameter seems to be shared between Photo and Movie modes. The red raven for example only has a 9.9 megapixel sensor, whereas a camera like a canon xa35 camcorder has a 3mp sensor..... How old are you? With great image quality, impressive speed and powerful features, it's a compelling option that doesn't require a monthly subscription. The world is full of solo video shooters who work under less-than-ideal conditions and despite what armchair experts will tell you, focus peaking doesn’t work in every lighting situation. The comparisons should use the 1" sensor found in the rx10 and rx100 which is much closer in size to m4/3 than the FF A7sII. If you want to hand hold your video shooting then you need something like the GH5 or Olympus EM1 for M43 or Fuji X-H1 for APSC. What the hell does that mean?? When engaged, the video has to crop-in slightly to provide room to pan and scan around the sensor. From a stills point of view, the two circuits are used from ISO 160 upwards and from ISO 800 and upwards, respectively. I think I found the B-Cam for my next project... @JordanDrake, how about a re-review of GH5, GH5S in 2020 with a brand new context of Canon R5, Sony A7Siii? Backup mode allows you to record continuously on one card, while you start and stop recording on the other card. Does the Panasonic LX100 not take very good photos? Also, with only 10MP's, how good can the really be, especially if you need to crop, or print over 8x10"? What's fun is coming back to the computer and finding out you've nailed the exposure, color profile, and focus so you don't have to dink around with the footage unless you want to. Having a lower pixel count also means the GH5S is also able to include an anti-aliasing filter that reduces the risk of video moiré, without having to worry about limiting the stills resolution. Sensor size really doesn't matter for video. Also, even while using a larger sensor, high readout speeds are achieved. Looks like Phillip Bloom did a low light comparison GH5s vs A7r3 (s35 crop). Are you thick?The Sony A7sii is obviously a better comparison. And now with incredible low light performance from the new sensor and the dual native ISO, VLOG L preinstalled, multi aspect ratio, DCI 4k up to 60fps and 1080p up to 240fps, along with everything it previously had (aside from Dual I.S and 6K photo mode, I dont mind that these features are gone for the GH5S, best part is, there is a legitimate reason for it and this camera is not meant to replace the GH5) everything this camera has externall and internally makes the GH5S my favourite camera on the market alongside the G9!! For GH5s, dpreview clearly states it produces the best video quality they ever tested. The ability to shoot DCI 4K at up to 60p with no crop is the most obvious distinction between this and the standard GH5, but the differences run deeper: As well as the ability to shoot DCI 4K at higher frame rates, Panasonic also claims the GH5S's larger pixels and 'Dual Native ISO' sensor will mean it shoots significantly better footage in low light. Tele Conv. The best high-end camera costing more than $2000 should have plenty of resolution, exceptional build quality, good 4K video capture and top-notch autofocus for advanced and professional users. The LUMIX GH5s is capable of internal SD card capture of 4:2:2 10-bit C4K/4K video recording without the banding so prone to 8-bit. Nothing more, no even comparable with full frame. Page 5 of the review shows the difference it makes (improved pixel-level DR at base ISO). The conclusion explains the logic behind the award and makes clear the limitations compared with other cameras (at things it's not meant to do). Thanks to broad margins of effective pixels, focal length does not change in these aspect ratios. With RAW, we can have the latitude to move our exposure up and down the latitude scale a bit, after the fact. More than approx. So if we expose correctly we can often just as well record in JPEG, so to speak. Panasonic Lumix GH5 (with 12-60mm lens) dcgh5mebk $1,897.99. Check out the photos they took along the way and judge the image quality for yourself! For some reason C-AF becomes much improved when using less than a 180 degree shutter. Given how many recent sensors are dual gain, it seems likely the next generation Four Thirds sensors will be, too. It would be interesting to see how they compare, though. However, all I'd expect it to do is speed up the hunting, since the system is fundamentally CDAF based. The display is brightened by lowering the frame rate and increasing the gain. Also, with a 1EV noise disadvantage (given both sensors are almost certainly BSI and hence likely to be comparable in terms of efficiency), the RX is going to have the same challenges as the a7S II only more so, since it'll have a noisier/lower DR signal that's then compressed into 100 Mbps 8-bit. I've been trying to do video to explain these misconceptions. I stand corrected on the Speedbooster, but the initial point (and my elaboration) is still valid. After watching Phillip Bloom's latest comparison between the GH5s and the A7s2, I would like to see a similar low low comparison between the A6500 & GH5s. Nice job, Richard! You can't hold all cameras to the same yardstick because they're not all meant to offer the same things to the same people. The Three-Dimensional Color Control zings with rich colors from dark to bright shades and high-precision Multi-Process NR makes your images pop even at high ISO sensitivity settings. / Synchro Scan / Time Code Display / Sound Rec Level Adj. Ideal for recording with 'squeezed' cinematic filmmaking lenses. I wouldn't even calling it rolling shutter, it just couldn't pan without dragging the prior view with it. Shtr Speed / HDR / Shutter Type / Flash Mode / Flash Adjust. We need like 416 more pixels on the long side. 65 min (rear monitor), 65 min (LVF) with H-FS12060, AVCHD [FHD/60i]: Approx. Since everyone already knows the A7s2 has lousy rolling shutter performance where the GH5 was only slightly better, wouldn't it be more meaningful to start comparing GH5s to A7r3 (in s35 crop mode)? That reviews are subjective (which they are, by definition) is hardly a a secret, so 'admit' is entirely the wrong word. This creates a tension between the needs of high-res stills photographer and lower-resolution of video capture. It has nice diagrams helping explain what are fairly complicated subjects. I suppose the main advantage the GH5s has, lies in its ability to capture at higher bitrates and higher bit-depth - and so, better DR in moving pictures.I wonder what Sony would be able to do with the a6500 successor, if it could output UHDp60 @ 10bit @ 200Mbps+ (without over-heating, of course). Panasonic Lumix GH5 (body only) DMC-GH5KBODY $949.00. Those who want portability like myself, the initial promise of MFT, will get a 1 inch camera and be happy. There is clearly a market for cameras that are based on stills cameras but then used exclusively for video. @Richard Butler, thank you for that explanation. Bad trolling attempt. Where is 2-3 stops advantage in video? Film-enthusiast website Studio C-41 takes us on a tour of the Kodak film plant in Rochester NY, with some behind-the-scenes footage of how film is made. I have a FF Nikon...never use it for video because the compression is crap. Excellent job with this review. It's the perfect options for people interested in both video and still images. It sounds like the GH5s is different than the GH5 in that respect. Dynamic / i. When people read "compress" they sometimes don't equate that with quality loss. Let me repeat the question: why should it be a niche thing (video) only? I suppose there's a possibility that Resolve is treating 940 as IRE 100 and 64 as 0 but it seems odd that it would then display it with 10-bit values on the left axis. It'll be interesting to see. The benefit of RAW really isn't in extended DR but in having some latitude in re-setting exposure after the fact. Which one is correct? However, the V60 standard itself seems to be vague enough that even some nominally V60-compliant cards are still not fast enough. The ultrahigh-speed 4K PHOTO mode at 60-fps with approximately 8-megapixels resolution freezes even faster motion which is simply not possible in conventional cameras. The heart of the difference between the GH5 and the GH5s is the sensor. Perhaps the DPR designation could get a paralel DVR platform? Give it a watch, then try it yourself! And what is the bitrate for 240fps? The difference is that it's been pushed as a marketing distinction in video but not stills. Panasonic wasn't the first company to introduce high quality video to what was otherwise a still camera, but with its GH series it has been constantly expanding the range of professional video features appearing in consumer stills/video cameras. Of course, not the first time dpreview has no real argument not to give it gold then seems to look for some reasons to. The GH5S has plenty of MP for what it is designed to do. POWER O.I.S. I'll be the first to admit I'm not especially familiar with Resolve but it was the s/w I had access to that reported data values, rather than IRE (or appeared to). How about this for a standard: I shoot video for money and for me the autofocus needs to be as good as or better than what I could get from the Canon EOS C200. After a struggle up the learning curve, DPR staffer has found some sort of equilibrium. It wouldn't make any business sense for Panasonic to make a camera for which they produce exactly 0 lenses. Some sony a7r3 shooters were changing some code to make them appear a7r2 files and ready for editing, outlined in detail on fredmiranda. Technically, Panasonic just did slightly increase the sensor size. It's also similar in price to the GH5S and has a reputation for great low light performance, so it seemed like the obvious comparison to make here. Video does not require a high MP count. ), More than approx. It appears that ISO 160 is the base ISO for CineD Low with ISO 1600 being the base ISO for CineD High. However, both HLG and Vlog-L are giving different results. Too bad the G9 doesn't have those. When viewed on a large monitor, it appears the GH5s begins to fall apart at ISO 6400. Yes, 14 bit raws included, something very unusual for a 4/3 sensor. Megapixel count way to small. Panasonic probably just figured that no one would examine it this closely so they posted it as is on their website. Compared to GH5, the Lumix GH5s has a newly designed chip which has half the megapixel count, now only 10.2 MP—making Panasonic the only brand to take a hybrid camera in another direction. A couple of things that cleared up this subject for me. You say "ff sells well"??? This is highlighted in the one situation in which the GH5S does offer digital stabilization: when combined with a lens offering optical stabilization. Once made and assembled it should make film copying much quicker and easier. MOV: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC (Audio format: LPCM (2ch 48kHz/16-bit, 48kHz/24-bit*, 96kHz/24-bit*)) *When attaching DMW-XLR1 (sold separately). Don't make the mistake of thinking that ISOs 400 and 2500 will give you the best results for stills shooting: they won't. NiSi is well known for its filters and accessories, but this $579 15mm F4 lens marks the first time the company has dipped its toes into the world of lenses. Just as we expect to see better pixel-level noise from larger pixels, logic would also lead you to expect greater pixel-level dynamic range (even though again, this advantage tends to disappear when you compare images at the same size). Such chips have two read-out modes, one that maximises dynamic range at low sensitivity settings and a second designed to minimize noise but at the cost of dynamic range, at higher settings (the second mode changes the 'conversion gain': essentially increasing the pixel's voltage output). I don’t think it’s likely you somehow just spotted a major flaw in Panasonics reasoning in bringing this camera to the market. The suggested retail price (body only) is $500-600 less than GH5S. 10 bit 422 4k...4k@60 you can't get in any other camera in this form factor right now. It also has the lowest MP count (10!) a7sII is nice, but its still 8 bit UHD. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pCgI4ht1Eo. Well, I was going with the stills I shot and the bodies I handled. This seems a shot in the foot of Panasonic. Directivity Adjust / HLG View Assist (HDMI) / Color Bars / WFM/Vector Scope / Anamorphic Desqueeze Display / HLG View Assist / LUT Monitor Display / LUT HDMI Display / Focus Transition / Silent Mode / Peaking / Histogram / Guide Line / Video Guide Line / Zebra Pattern / Monochrome Live View / Constant Preview / Live View Boost / Rec Area / Video-Priority Display / Step Zoom / Zoom Speed / Night Mode / Exposure Comp. 2.03x more megapixels (main camera)? The MF Assist display has been enlarged up to 20x. I guess if you need a good video camera for very low light it might be a good choice, if you don't mind the size, weight, and COST. Sensor-shift IS systems operate by 'floating' the sensor using a series of electromagnets. Um...Red is not FF. The diagram in the Multi-aspect sensor section of page 1 of the review should make clear what's going on. *** For [C4K/60p] [C4K/50p] [4K/60p] [4K/50p] video output, use an HDMI2.0 cable that has the HDMI logo on it, and that is described as"4K compatible". The GH5s comes pre-installed with HDR Hybrid Log Gamma and Panasonic’s V-LogL along with professional grade exposure tools like: Time Code sync, Waveform, Vector Scopes, and programmable Zebra patters. The LUMIX GH5s is equipped with dual SD card slots for larger capacity recording and efficient file arrangement. The optional DMW-XLR1 enables high-grade stereo recording with an attached XLR microphone (2 channels — left and right) for professional video production. To me, it appears very distractive and does represent annoyance when watching movie. Despite some tough competition from Canon's excellent EOS R5, Sony's a7R IV remains at the top of the pack in our 'best camera for landscape photography' buying guide. ISO 1600 is good. Gold, seriously? The appearance of a sensor clearly optimized for video, in a camera with the most videocentric feature set we've ever tested, strongly suggests the reason for this pixel count is video. Funny how that happens. Does it show full range "Luminance Level" in the camera and when examined with a computer? Gift Guide. Best Telephoto Prime Lenses for Panasonic GH5S. Those who are already invested on a GH5 would not change it for a marginal ISO improvement, those on A7sII would never give up at least 2-3 stops of higher ISO and IBIS for something like this. Basically, the GH5S can potentially be used in actual movie production, footage shot could be manipulated with relative ease in post production to match other studio cameras somewhat. Synchronization for flash dimming and exposure compensation, Yes (When using DMW-FL200L / FL360L / FL580L (sold separately)), Wireless Channel: 1ch/2ch/3ch/4ch, TFT LCD monitor with static touch control, Brightness, Contrast, Saturation, Red-Green, Blue-Yellow, Level Gauge, Real-time Histogram, Guide Lines (3 patterns), Video Guide Line, Center Marker, Highlight display (Still image / motion picture), Zebra pattern (Still image / motion picture), Wi-Fi / Q.MENU / Video Record / LVF/Monitor Switch / LVF/Monitor Disp. http://www.isl.co.jp/SILKYPIX/english/p/ (For Windows / Mac), ** About motion picture recording / 4K PHOTO recording. There's also no recording duration limit so you can go beyond 30 minutes in all record settings. You can choose your own award. Surely, gold award is completely warranted in this case? Perfect focal length can also be achieved as the LUMIX GH5s features a multiple aspect ratio recording. Check it out. More and more phone have phase detect actually. There is many camera with phase detect sensor and ibis for a lot less than GH5S. Rec Format / Motion Pic. This is the best review I've ever seen on DPR. So far Panasonic has and others have only put dual gain sensors in video/(centric) cameras as far as I know...So you're suggesting this is going to trickle down to stills cameras?? This week, he gives us a quick lesson on how it's done. This would eliminate a lot of the focus issues during filming. Other than that I love the camera. However, I think I saw someone say that the latest version of ACR (and DNG Converter) now support the files. - Use a card with SD Speed Class with "Class 4" or higher when recording motion pictures in [AVCHD] or [MP4(under 28Mbps)]. However its smaller sensor (1/2 the size of the GH5S's) means that, even when optimally exposed, it'll have 1EV more shot noise. The LUMIX GH5s allows tethered shooting via USB with "LUMIX Tether" PC software. 60 min (rear monitor), 55 min (LVF) with H-FS12060, JPEG (DCF, Exif 2.31), RAW (14-bit / 12-bit), MP4 (H.264/MPEG-4 AVC, Audio format: AAC (2ch)). Very easy to shoot with (like my GH4) and the footage is the best I've ever taken. Essentially it’s like comparing a point and shoot camera to a DSLR. That will severely limit their dynamic range as opposed to using ISO 160, correct? No rush. Gold award for a camera with only contrast detect?Although I can admit that Panasonic has done a great works at speed focus, you shown us in the movie sample included in the conclusion, the camera is hunting for focus which means that it does do some blur once in a while. End it would be a panasonic lumix gh5s ' thing in the end it would be a bigot standard terminology. Display at 120-fps with minimal time lag an awful lot of interesting information the. 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